Posts by cha ching

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Just need to vent a little

by Phoebe in

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in the last week i have had three visits from brothers.

so 6 witnesses in all as they come in pairs.

now considering i used to go to the meetings, sit by myself and literally no one talked to me - ever - why the concern all of a sudden?.

cha ching

Cheeky cow is right!! That is audacious.... "Get it done, it's not you!" Ha!

I would be steaming too!

Hugs

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The org tightens the noose on J.W.'s thinking.

by The Fall Guy in

the manipulative use of language by the org in the upcoming circuit assembly talks is as good - or better - than any advertising conglomerate could devise.

the mind-shaping wording is clearly used in order to deter critical thinking by the sheep.. face bad reports as jesus did (9 min.

note to the speaker: explain why spiritually mature people do not become ashamed of the good news or dismayed when faced with negative propaganda.

cha ching

Jesus kept focused on doing his Father’s will without becoming troubled by what his opponents said. Jesus did not get distracted by trying to defend himself from every false accusation.......he did not waste time arguing endlessly with incorrigible opponents.

So, if Peter, Paul, John and Luke were proven to be pedophiles by 20 kids and the court of law, would "Jesus be troubled by what his opponents said"?

Jesus would not get in front of a crowd an say "I abhor child abuse!"... He would do something about it.

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"The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction." -- Feb 2017 Watchtower

by cognisonance in

full stop.

(paragraph 12 -- feburary 2017 watchtower -- who is leading god's people today?

)so why then would any jw abide by harmful doctrines setup by the governing body (blood, shunning, the two-witness rule, etc)?

Those two opposite quotes are invaluable! They say it all! Sometimes, with the volume of literature the WT puts out (on purpose) you can go crazy trying to find the opposing demanding views they print. Now it's logged, it's history.

Thank you!

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Court ruling update.....

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/?fref=gc.

cha ching

Vidiot... which court case?

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Court ruling update.....

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/?fref=gc.

cha ching

I couldn't believe it either.

The "worldly" lawyer that the WT hired was a pro.... He gave the judges an illustration of a person working at a Coca Cola (?) factory. He asked something like this: 'now, let's say someone comes to work for CC and in the past had been convicted as a shoplifter, is CC going to be obligated, by this decision you are making to "inform everyone working at this plant that 'there is a shoplifter here'. 'It would cost so much money, and if it was a rule, then people would sue them for 'not declaring the shoplifter'..... in that type of style.

He used the "umbrella" idea to affect the judges ruling that all corporations in CA would be effected.

So the WT argued more in the style that IT was a "corporation" and NOT as a "god's channel of communication."

They did not come across as "abhorring child abuse".

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Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

by darkspilver in

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daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.

cha ching

OOOOOOOOooops, sorry guys, haha!

I thought it was odd that it had "reverse closed captioning", haha!

It was suppose to be in English, but was in Spanish with English CC!

Oh well.... I tried.... Anyone else have a trailer

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Oh this stoopid shunning thing!!

by Unstuck in

warning - vent ahead....... so, my father (still very much in jw but who has at least had the decency to still keep in contact with me and hubby and to show interest in why we aren't attending and respect where we are at) is in intensive care at a local hospital and is intubated and sedated with some serious health issues.

i'm next of kin so i get all the phone calls from the hospital.. so, the rest of the "family" has cut me off because we are inactive and because the ever-active jw gossip grapevine has rumoured with a sibilant slithy hissy voice: "apossstassssy" is the cause of our inactivity.. whatever.. but now i've had to contact said "family" with the news about my father and what is going on....... so, dad's sisters answer my calls and manage to act and conduct themselves with a degree of decorum.. my sister on the other hand - well, she doesn't deign to answer my calls and texts for most of the day.

i push the issue tonight and insist on speaking to her when my brother-in-law answers the call.

cha ching

So sorry, unstuck....... I am almost to your place in life....

My dad is NOT a JW, my mom is.... He is 87, and there will come a hospital day.

I am not disassociated or DFd, but have not "attended" for five years now. My hubby was DFd for testifying in a child abuse case, and NO ONE of my family has spoken/ discussed/ inquired about it.

(One day, quite unplanned... when my JW sister asked me "which DA are you going to?" .... I let the cat out of the bag, and told her about the latest WT re: 607, and one question/response led to another, and the next thing I knew, I was telling her that the WT was going to have to ditch Russell, and change "the times" cuz 607 was wrong.... that was in 2012.... and it happened not long after)

So.... five years later, after my mom has been VERY business like when I called, she is in need of help cleaning up my hoarding dad's yard, and my JW sister refuses, she "helped 3 years ago" ! My DFd hubby & I, and my non-baptized also apostate sister have been leading the way in the cleanup.... my mom is being more 'friendly'.... My JW sister is still acting like a self righteous brat.

My point? I don't know what would happen if my dad suddenly took a turn for the worse... JWs change their colors/ coats so fast... Would all of our hard work be forgotten?

I feel for you..... JWs have a tendency not to "communicate".... it is against their religion....

Always hold the higher place, actions will always speak louder than words...

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Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.

cha ching

Here are a couple of trailers, 'apparently' is is classified as a comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnuA5o0Bf1U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNovx44gkDE

"Weighty matters, tackled with a wonderful lightness of touch" Hollywood Reporter

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YouTube video that you may find of interest.

by longgone in

i came across a youtube video published on august 11th of this year called "watchtower threw out 130 years of bad "spiritual food" with one talk" by leonard east.

(sorry, i still haven't learned how to put up a link.).

as i read the introduction from the publisher, i remembered that very talk and how i felt when i heard it.

cha ching

10:36, "we must follow the light wherever it leads us, our love should be for the truth, and not for a particular doctrine or teaching... Well how would you summarize this talk in a few words?"

"Well, the wrong answer is 'we don't believe in types and anti-types any more', we do! we really do!"

"Where the scriptures identify them as such, we embrace them, but where the Bible is silent, we must be silent"

I am getting dizzy from the circles...

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YouTube video that you may find of interest.

by longgone in

i came across a youtube video published on august 11th of this year called "watchtower threw out 130 years of bad "spiritual food" with one talk" by leonard east.

(sorry, i still haven't learned how to put up a link.).

as i read the introduction from the publisher, i remembered that very talk and how i felt when i heard it.

cha ching

9:55 "we simply cannot go beyond what is written".... hmmm, if they are abandoning certain "types/ anti-types" that we all studied, spent so much time of our lives on....

that means, in the past, they DID go beyond what was written!

( But NOW they aren't! Thank God! What a relief!)

Sends chills up and down my spine!